Secular Saturday Episode 1 (Warning: political talk)

This is our secondary show Secular Saturday where we just throw the script away and discuss just about anything!

This episode, we talk about the current pandemic, online church, politics, and the media's affect on people. Hope you enjoy listening to this as much as we did making it.

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Transcript

spk_0:   0:00
All right. Welcome to the first episode of Secular Saturday in the Guy's Guide to Christian Living Podcast. I didn't talk about this in the little intro trailer that I did, but secular Saturday pretty much is just gonna be a chill conversation between Trevor and I, or if we have any guests who want to be on it. Um, we can talk about the Bible in Christianity, but we're not necessarily limiting ourselves to that. Were kind of just going to discuss current events. Things we want to talk about, just whatever. Go whatever is going on. So, what were you doing? All right this morning? I know. Ah, I know. We're having some internet issues.

spk_1:   0:38
Yeah. I mean, I'm doing good, huh? You know, a lot of lot of weirdness going on. I'm kind of, you know, getting already kind of weary of working from home and doing ministry from home and meetings on the Internet. It's Ah, yeah. It's been a good week. I mean, it's a good morning so far, other than other than our Internet issues.

spk_0:   1:00
Um, So for some context, Trevor and I have been trying to record the first real episode of the Guy's Guide, which is biblical manhood. What is typical manhood and, ah, just things have not been able to work out because we can't trust my Internet right now, which is my Internet's. Normally, you know, steady. Trevor. It's normally really good. I'm believe you Internet, but ah, just for whatever reason. Today it is not wanting to cooperate. And so yet for some context we've been trying to record. But things just haven't working out. I will say something, and then it's like three seconds before it here, Trevor And he says something that's like four seconds for hears me. And so things of ah been difficult, but yeah, man, you mentioned working from home in ministry online. How are things at the way?

spk_1:   1:49
Oh, no, things were good. It's, um obviously when we came up on spring break, when are all over? So we're in. I'm in Lubbock, Texas, for those listening. And so most of our students are Texas Tech students, and so we kind of do our College Ministry based off their schedules. So when they went home for spring break back in early March, we didn't think that was the last time that we saw our students, especially our seniors. You know that air? This is it. And so we started spring break, and then they said, Oh, well, spring break's gonna be two weeks long because all this Corona virus stuff, then they say, Well, actually, we're not gonna meet in person the rest of the semester and so and actually encourage students that could to stay back and their hometowns. And so yeah, ministry's been completely online. We head off, we always have. We've live streaming service is for a while now, but now we're only online for our service is on Sunday nights were doing Ah, we're doing a podcast at the way, which doesn't have to rely on the Internet because we're all here in person. And so we just go straight on to, um a, uh, thio hard drive. But many ways, but so we've been doing a podcast, and they were also doing we have ah, our all of our community groups that usually meet, you know, in the host home. And and, uh, those were happening online through Zoom and ah, we've heard good things from all of our leaders that those went well this week and then we're also trying to I've been meeting with students online through Zoom. So like having zoom calls? Uh, it's just weird. I mean, I'm thankful that we have a way to do ministry still, but, um, yeah, it's, ah, less than ideal. And it's I'm already kind of Honestly, I'm already kind of tired of it. Like I miss interacting with people in person.

spk_0:   3:42
Yeah, so I actually keep up with all you guys do on the way app. So I've I don't know that I listened to the sermons every week, but the ones that I miss I catch up on. So I guess it'll be about three or four weeks in between times that I listen. But then I'll it's like I binge. Listen through the sermons that I missed in the discussions that I missed because I I don't know, I just like to, I guess, is kind of like my way of keeping in touch. Yeah, but ah, so have you guys done? So you said you're doing like online servants. Have you guys posted any of those yet? Um, well, we don't know. You like I checked the app and I still the last one I saw was the last one that you guys did live.

spk_1:   4:27
Yeah, I don't know. Um, it may not be in the app yet, but the sermon from this past Sunday night is on. I know it's on Facebook. Okay. It should be on the app I need, I guess I'll check and see who wore that. Hasn't happened yet, but yes. Oh, usually they'd be on our app, but it's on. It is on Facebook, though. We live streamed Sunday night through Facebook. And you do? We had some issues with the YouTube. We did actually ask the Internet problems, but that's hopefully fixed for this Sunday. And so Yeah, BSO. The sermons will be for sure on YouTube and Facebook. And then, yeah, usually it's on the app, but, uh, for some reason, I guess it's not. I haven't even checked that. I've been so I have actually been the one getting like our apple podcast up and running. And so I haven't even checked on the app this week, but yes, a lot.

spk_0:   5:18
What I want to change. What room are you guys doing your sermons in Now? If they're just online, is it? Well, I just had this image of, like, the band and, like, Travis up on the stage, just talking to a camera in an empty room.

spk_1:   5:35
It isn't. That is That's the correct image. When you were so doing it, we're going in there because that's where all of our, you know, uh, sound equipment and everything is set up until now for Sunday mornings, like they've done a couple of different things. But for our college service is we're just gonna just keep it in there just because everything is already there. Like our cameras set up sound everything and so okay. And for a live stream, I think that that's all set up in there pretty well, Sunday morning, our church has been doing pre recorded service's and then posting them, but for the way we're doing it live still.

spk_0:   6:13
Okay? Yeah. No, that's awesome. And, uh, I just listen to y'all's podcast. Ah, two days ago, I think it was really good. You guys did a great job. I thought it was a really interesting topic.

spk_1:   6:25
Yeah. Yeah. Being um Yeah. What do you do when you feel like you're in a spiritual desert? Um, yeah, it's It's a tough one because a lot of people find themselves in that place. And, you know, we had a good time. It's nothing yet. We actually just put out our second episode today.

spk_0:   6:42
Oh, really? That's awesome. It's,

spk_1:   6:44
Ah, Christians and politics, which I think that I think you and I will talk about at some point, Yes, but yes, we put that one out today, Um, and so we'll see what kind of feedback we get on that. But it's interesting times right now, especially in terms of politics. There's a lot of, Ah opinions out there heated opinions. You got the election coming up. You have all this road, a virus pandemic. And so there's all kinds of, uh, all kinds of heat being thrown around in the political realm now, which there always is. But especially with all this going on, all these, like the big stimulus bill trying to be passed and just reading this and then the election and you know, it's craziness. So we kind of felt like it was relevant to talk about that now. Yeah, versus later. But

spk_0:   7:35
I mean, that's nuts, isn't it? It's almost as if the election, I guess, from the wave. I guess where I'm at it's almost as if the election is no longer even happening. That's it's become a total non factor in any discussions or news or or anything. I saw one thing about it yesterday, and that was like the first time I had even heard of Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden in Yeah, you know, in terms of them being presidential candidates,

spk_1:   8:13
Well, yeah, it's like the whole this whole, you know, Corona virus Pandemic. And the economic meltdown has kind of overshadowed all that. I mean, honestly, like the truth is, honestly, the truth is that no one really gives two crafts about what Joe Biden of Brady Center just say right now because they're not that they care about what the president and the current administration have to say, because they're the ones actually making these big decisions right now. And so people are tuning in, you know, to what the current administration is saying, and that's like we forget that there's actually really because Sanders is pretty much already dropped out. I think it's just basically it's gonna be Biden versus Tracy

spk_0:   8:54
because that was actually the thing that I saw a couple of days ago. Who was it? I can't remember who it was, but he was on some TV show and like the host, Oh my God, I need to look a I'm gonna try to look up who it was, but he was on some TV show. I used to like being questioned why he hasn't dropped out yet.

spk_1:   9:13
Yeah, he's not. He's not officially dropped out, but it's pretty much all but all but official this point. Um, from everything I've seen is it? It's Ah, it's almost become like a The question is like, Why? Why have you not dropped out? Because the the Democrats have clearly chosen Biden because he I think Biden's and more of a pushover and a company man. And it will be easy toe. Oh, manipulate oh, versus

spk_0:   9:39
San. I was getting into the rial political talking

spk_1:   9:42
here. That's that's even that's like that's like a common like it's like it's pretty known like, especially in this race like there, all the good, decent amount, saying, I'm not saying that Sanders is a good candidate, but but all the you know, kind of candidates that would have even a chance, you know, to to run against Trump. They've eliminated. And they chose Biden of all people, like this 80 year old man who can't form sentences. I it's just crazy to me, like I'm I'm the 1st 1 to tell you, Like as a I don't I'm not super political. I don't like to. I don't want to draw a line in the sand and say, like, I don't have it. I don't align with a particular political party. I know neither, you know, I consider myself more conservative, but also, like, I have a lot of libertarian beliefs. I did not vote for Trump last selection. I'll just I don't mind saying that, Um, as far as you know. But yes, Oh, Of that being said, though, it's just crazy to me in four years, Um, the media soldiers. It's just constant criticism and bashing Trump and some of its or maybe even a lot of it's justified. But it's like in four years you're gonna put up Joe Biden like That's the guy I don't know, no

spk_0:   11:06
shots fired already. Episode of line Like

spk_1:   11:09
I wanted. I wanted a better candidate, you know, like, yeah, it's just crazy to me and so many ways, that's going to be interesting. But that whole political race has been pretty much like you said, Overshadowed. I mean, I don't think it's gonna be. I bet it's not until July or August that people start even thinking about the election again.

spk_0:   11:29
Yeah, so and just the whole thing is nuts. And like you said, we're gonna talk about it. But you guys just talked about at the way. Actually, I'm I'm gonna try to see if I can link the ways podcast in, like, our shit in our show. No show description. Page, right?

spk_1:   11:47
Yeah. Way cool thing about that podcast the Christians in Politics episode is we were really The questions we're trying to answer on that are like, you know, should faith in politics mix. Should you be out spoken about politics of the Christian, like, how should you go about voting and and then, you know, just some of the negatives. You know, uh, Christians who are super out spoken about politics. That's all they talk about the thing. There's a strong possibility that that actually pushes more people away from Jesus and towards him When someone's so out spoken like your like I You know, even this conversation of head the last few minutes, like that's the most that I've talked about politics and, you know, a year. Um, I have a friend that out, one of my best friends, and I'll talk with him about it because he'll bring it up and we'll text back and forth, and I don't mind having the conversation, but, you know, it's not a priority for me. And, you know, I have some opinions and stuff, but, like, I'm never gonna talk about like, even like state last election. I'll tell you who I didn't vote for. But like a ce faras like this election, like you're not going to hear we're talking about, you know, riding Biden 2020 or Trump

spk_0:   12:57
train 2020 years like that is that is that is just not right and buying.

spk_1:   13:01
Yeah, you like that podcast? It's a good one. And we had a good discussion. Um well, I know I just made that up. Okay, Should though they should say that riding Biden 2020 I think that's great writing. Biden run by, uh, Trump train or make America great again or keep America great or whatever. And then, ah, feel burn for Bernie Sanders. Uh, but that's funny. Yeah, politics is not a man,

spk_0:   13:29
you know that. I've actually had me. I've had

spk_1:   13:34
what I would have you been keeping up with all this. Have you been keeping up with all the the Corona virus stuff? No. Just like Corona virus. And like, all that kind of stuff, like, have you been keeping up with that? Are you kind of not paying too much attention or what? What's kind of in your your view on that?

spk_0:   13:55
Well, you know, um actually, am I getting kind of delayed for you a little bit? A little bit? Yeah. Okay, so yeah, the Corona virus. Yeah, I've been keeping up with it, Keeping up with the news. Um, I try to not overwhelm myself with it because they can be easy to get overwhelmed. But, ah, you know, for a long time, I It didn't really affect me personally because I didn't know anybody who had it, um, Or who got it officially, At least there's a couple people wear. I'm kind of suspicious. Might have had it, and they never went to the doctor or anything. but actually just recently on the first, actually. So two days ago. Ah, I have, Ah, real good friend of mine. His mom got it confirmed. Covert 19? Yeah, she got put in the hospital. Um, she she later I'm

spk_1:   14:56
super ill. Or was she more miles?

spk_0:   14:59
So it wasn't like, how do I explain? Um, it wasn't like she was. It didn't seem like she was, like, about to die or anything, but rather it was more just really intense fevers. And, um and you know, all the other symptoms. You get the dry cough, the ever else but, ah, the worst part for her. What were the fever's? Because they could. They got pretty high. And ah, so she she actually got tested twice the first time. Came back negative. No Corona virus hoop. I just have a microphone. So Yeah, no Corona virus. The first test, but it just kept getting worse. So she tested again and came back positive. So that kind of confused me. How does how does it come back? Negative and then come back positive later. I don't know how that works. Yeah, she got She got confirmed positive, and they put her in the hospital. So that was actually a pretty scary day. Um, because I'm you know, obviously, I'm worried about her, and I'm worried about my friend and his family and all that because he it's her, him and his sister that live in the in the apartment together. Yeah. And, uh, so I'm like, Well, they probably all have it at least somewhat. Or I don't know how all the spreading really works. Uh,

spk_1:   16:28
well, it's like it's, um it's super contagious. But the thing about it is is like, you can you can and you can go and you can get tested for Corona virus and you could have it and show no symptoms. And never Ian never experienced symptoms, but you could have it for multiple weeks. And apparently it's very contagious. Ah, especially on, like through touch and transmission, like it can that originally, they said it could stay on plastic and metal for like 2 to 3 days. Another saying like it can

spk_0:   16:58
not last. I heard it was man. Well, I dont know that in a while it was like 12 hours.

spk_1:   17:04
We'll see. Well, so now they're saying that they can actually live in plastic for, like, 18 days or something crazy like that. But no. But the thing about it, yeah, I mean, for a lot of people, like, they can get Corona virus and just be a carrier and have no symptoms and fine. But then some people get it and you know, it puts him in the hospital, not just in the hospital, but in critical condition, especially people that are a little older and have pre existing health conditions. I mean, it's got a pretty weird virus. I mean, that's crazy for some people, it really can just be like a, you know, just flu symptoms. And they kind of Or for some people, it could just be like a minor cold. But then, for some people that, you know, you're you're super ill, you might die like it's Ah, it's such a It's such a, you know, wide, um, like, like very varied symptoms. It seems like our severity of the symptoms, I guess. And so it's pretty crazy. I mean, I think that yeah, I would have ever thought that this is how 2020 would go. We'd have more of this non stop since the start of this year sucked so far

spk_0:   18:12
I e. I was one of those guys at the you know when 2019 turned on New Year, I was one of those guys. 2020 is my year, you know, I'll get it done. And then it's just been nonstop. That's

spk_1:   18:29
been I mean, Kobe Bryant died. That was that Devastated me is a massive sports fan. I cried for yes, and then and then, you know, and then this. And then no more sports. Like what? What is like? What is happening this year is, Oh, it's just tear.

spk_0:   18:47
The world is shut down,

spk_1:   18:49
but, you know, But then at the same time, though, I hear all the you know you go on the if you watch the news at all, it's just doom and gloom like it's the end of the world. And I think there's still a lot of a lot of positive, actually, John John Krasinski from the office. Yeah, in a quiet place he's been doing. He started like a YouTube channel that's also on his Facebook to call some good news. And so he's like a pretty out content of just good news, like no bad news. It's just good news. And so it was kind of a good reminder is funny. He actually had Steve Carell on there for, like, a little interview for the 15 year anniversary of the office. And

spk_0:   19:27
I heard about that. Yeah,

spk_1:   19:29
but you know, it's so easy to get caught up in all this doom and gloom stuff. And and that's what you know, truthfully, what's unfortunate is that we actually we've gotten to a place in our world where, in order to find good news, you actually have to go and search for it, whereas the bad news is just right in your face all the time. So it's It's really easy to be super negative and super down, especially depending on how this virus is. Obviously, it's affecting some people's lives and really terrible ways, not just physically, but also, you know, financially and stuff. And so, But you have to, like, go and search for good news, and it's it's just kind of crazy how, like, actually, I don't know if you heard about this, but CBS was talking about New York City because right now in New York City is getting hit the hardest in the United States on and CBS aired footage from a hospital in Italy like it's like the There's a hospital in Italy that's getting That's like it looks if you see footage of the hospital. Really, it looks like the end of the world like it's terrible There in CBS actually aired footage of that hospital as if it wants New York. They aired it to make it look like it was New York. They came out and they admitted it, but they tried to say all it was a mistake. But it's like they straight up aired footage of a hospital totally system as if it was New York. And that's how twisted that is.

spk_0:   21:00
You know? Was it a mistake? I'm not gonna try to say whether somebody did it on purpose, but I can easily see. And I'm not gonna throw any accusations around as if this is what happened. But I can easily see you know, when you're wanting something to be something, you can kind of make it that thing in your head, right? So if you want a new story about Doris, the media being really, really bad and you see a picture of a hospital. And let's say somebody on social Media says that that's from New York, where you wanted that news story. So you're Oh, I'm just going to run it without doing your you know, your due diligence. In fact, checking. I'm not saying that's what happened, but I could easily see it. I could see myself making that mistake right, cause I have on social media, you know, Retweeting something that's not actually true because it sounds like it should be true, because I agree with it. I've done that before. I feel like everybody's done something like that before.

spk_1:   22:03
Yeah, well, I don't trust the media for a second, and I don't you know, I'm not, like, not, like, begin to conspiracy and stuff, but I don't like I don't trust the media. I haven't No, I have. No, I have no issue believing that, you know, media companies are putting stuff out to cause more fear, more pandemic and stuff, because that's that's what gets views and clicks. And so it's just a for me, like as you know, to as it just trying to if I want to stay positive at all. Um, I've got I have to, you know, I want to be informed, but I cannot rely on media and news at all because it's just all like I'm just gonna be depressed constantly. If I just watched the news all the time, it's not that those things aren't happening like things were bad, but there's also There's been a lot of really cool stuff that's come out of this is well liked the appreciation that people are showing for nurses and doctors and first responders like things like that and people coming together and supporting one another and donating And, you know, like giving up Paige Explosion all kinds of cool stories like that, and it's just but But you're not going to see that on the front lines of of the news because that's that's not what they want. And that's you know, So that's, Ah, many ways

spk_0:   23:25
well, on that note. Hello, I am Come on, Wainwright talking to you at a separate point in time from when that secular Saturday episode was recorded just to let you know that this overall discussion was a little bit over 50 minutes long, and so for that reason, we decided to cut it into two parts. And so part two of this conversation will be uploaded, probably in about a week or so. We discuss a lot of interesting topics. At least I feel like they're interesting. Quick teaser is that we will discuss for quite a while actually where the real Mount Sinai might be. So stay tuned for that. Ah, quick note before I get out of here. I do hope that you did not find anything that we talked about triggering or offensive or anything of the sort secular Saturdays or just off the cuff. No script. We didn't even think about what we're gonna talk about. We just hopped on and started recording. And so if there was something that you disagree with, talk to us about it, we would love to discuss really anything with you all. I know that I don't agree with everything that Trevor says, and I know that he doesn't agree with everything that I say, but we're still great friends at the end of the day and we love tohave civil discussions with each other, and I hope the same for us and your So with that said, I'm going to get out of here. And thank you so much for listening. And I'll catch you guys on the next episode. Have a good one.